The Extremist Commonality of Takfir and Tabdee

A Glance at the Belief System

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Ibn Abbass said: “There will come a group of people who will not understand the Quran the way we do.” [Bidiyah wa Nihiya 7/293]


The most dangerous thing to man is when he believes something harmful is good and does evil thinking his deeds are righteous. Allah said: Say “Shall We tell you the greatest losers in respect of (their) deeds “Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life while they thought that they were acquiring good by their deeds![1] 

When considering the actions from ISIS, Al-Qa’idah and those extreme in Tabdee,  the corruption they have caused to the Muslims in their worship, their minds and in their family’s life, all in the name of Jihad against disbelievers and innovators is evident. And as time passes by, it becomes more depressing. These fanatics have no regard for the quality of life and family structure, and will do anything  to destroy a civilized society and divide a family household for the sake of the understanding of their own beliefs.

Reducing the spread of these ideas is the goal if extremism is to be curbed, not necessarily the persons involved. Our concern to protect our religion and family is the primary objective against a cyber-world where ideologues are constantly spreading their beliefs to others. The extremist in Takfir and Tabdee are young self-righteous people who have gone too far. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas.[2] These adolescents have only a surface knowledge of Islam with a very limited understanding of the Quran and the Sunnah and generally think that they know the truth and no one else does.

Takfir and Tabdee are legitimate laws in the Islam that must only be applied by scholars well-grounded in the Shar’iah, otherwise when practiced by unqualified and inexperienced people, a grave tragedy will result. The extremist in both of these areas takes a general description for a statement or an action for one to become an apostate or innovator and then apply it to specific people without considering the establishment of proof first against that person.

Shaykh Muhammad Bazmoul said: The argument of proof must be given to a Muslim first before he can be considered a disbeliever, an innovator, or a sinner. Allah said:  And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)[3].

To say certain speech, actions and beliefs are acts of disbelief and Bi’dah doesn’t require the proof to be established, but to apply the ruling of these things to specific people does.[4]

Ibn Taymiyyah said: “No one has the right to take a Muslim out of the realm of Islam through an error or mistake he’s made until the proof has been established against him.[5]

Unjust application of removing Muslims from Islam and Sunnah

To begin one of the fairly common traits shared with ISIS, Al-Qa’idah and Ahl Tabdee is their inability to distinguish between Takfir and Tabdee in description, in general and specifically. So, if there is any act they perceive as Kufr or Bid’ah, then the ruling applies to that person automatically to be a Kafir or an innovator.

Shaykh Abdullah ibn Muhammad ibn Abdil Wahhab said: “The difference between general and specific is crystal clear; Takfir in general is to declare all people disbelievers whether they know or don’t, and for those whom the proof has been established against or not. The Takfir in the specific case is for the one who the proof has been given to about the actions of disbelief. [6]

Likewise, Ahl Tabdee take the general text and apply it to any and every one not with them. Shaykh Rabee said: They declare anyone who falls in Bid’ah to be an innovator and they believe Ibn Hajr is more dangerous than Sayyid Qutb .[7]

Imam Al-Albani said: “Everyone who falls into bid’ah isn’t an innovator.”

Uniquely, the people extreme in Tabdee have their own personal stockpile armory of  narrations which they fire at every person who doesn’t agree with them. Unlike the Khawarij, who rely on a twisted understanding of the Quran. Ahl Tabdee will say things from Imam Al-Barbaharee’s book: Whoever abandons the Jumu’ah or congregational prayer in the mosque, without an excuse, is an innovator.”

Consequently, since their masjids in their circles are the only ones where prayer should be offered, they will abandon giving Salams to any and every one that doesn’t pray in them.

Shaykh Ahmed An-Najmee commented on Imam Al-Barbaharee’ point,” If a person doesn’t pray in congregation he’s sinner or hypocrite, but not an innovator until he stops praying in congregation and Friday prayer believing that the Imam mustn’t be followed, but he still isn’t considered an innovator.[8]

Imam Ahmed An-Najmee’s speech applies to them more than anyone else, as they are known to walk and drive pass every masjid not on the list.

The list could go on and on and the narrations of Salaf aren’t proofs for verdicts, unless there is a consensus among them on a particular issue, otherwise it’s an opinion, and in some instances for a certain period of time in a particular place.

To remedy this problem is easy. Allah said: So ask of those who know the Scripture if you don’t.[9]  It’s not permissible for an ignorant or self-taught individual who puts himself forward to speak about the affairs of the religion without knowledge. Here, it must be reiterated that at the time of questioning a scholar for the verdict about a person that the full name must be mentioned, before any Sheikh’s answer can be applied to him in specific. For example on YouTube you’ll find Sheikh Such and Such refutes this one and that one; however the person’s name wasn’t mentioned in the question. So, for that reason, today we need to disregard and stop attributing a scholar’s speech to people he didn’t intend. This scheme is one often employed by Ahl Takfir and Ahl Tabdee.[10]

The belief that anyone who doesn’t boycott an innovator should be boycotted[11]

Another similar trait among both fanatics is whoever doesn’t agree with them in Takfir or Tabdee on an individual shares the same ruling. The people of Takfir say whoever doesn’t consider a Kafir to be a disbeliever is a Kafir and Ahl Tabdee practice whoever doesn’t call such and such an innovator is a person of Bid’ah.[12]

For instance Ahl Tabdee will say what’s your opinion of so and so, and if this person is labeled and you don’t agree, then you’re forced to wear the same, while others in their more extreme approach will merely just assume you know this person has been called an innovator by one or two, so you must follow suit, otherwise you are defiant. They act this way towards everyone without restriction, it doesn’t matter if the issue is unclear or incomprehensible for his fellow Muslim. And to add insult to injury if the person asks for proof then he’s automatically shunned, followed by the boycott. And Allah is a witness of their terror. Allah said: What thing is the most great in witness?” Say: “Allah (the Most Great!) is Witness between me and you.[13]

Testing non-members with their leaders

The agreement or disagreement with the zealots of Takir and Tabdee is a mannerism between them and they don’t recognize its catastrophe. The believers of Takfir and Tabdee are testing the global population with speeches and actions that are nowhere legislated in Islam or anywhere in the Shariah.  And consequently have caused bloodshed and turmoil around the globe that only Allah knows to what extent. The Khawarij killed the Prophet’s (ﷺ) companion Abullah ibn Khabab. They asked him: What do you say about Abu Bakr and Umar? Abdullah praised them.

Then they asked him: What do you say about the rule of Uthman from the beginning of his government. Abdullah replied he was in right from beginning until the end.

Then they asked him:  What’s your opinion about Ali before and after his rulership?  Abdullah ibn Khabab said: He’s more knowledgeable about Allah than you are, and  more God-fearing with more insight.

At that moment the Khawarji told him: You follow your desires and support people because of their names and not their actions. I swear to God, we are going to kill you in a way that we haven’t killed anyone before.[14]

The extremist of Tadee use their leaders such Abu Khadeejah, Abu Hakeem,Amjad Rafiq and Abul Hasan Malik to determine if a person is a Sunni Muslim.  Please refer to Anwar Wright’s declaration below which reads, “If you see someone loving Abu Khadeejah, Abu Hakeem,Amjad Rafiq , Abul Hasan Malik then know they are inshallah a person of the Sunnah.”[15]

His words are clear and require no explanation.

Shaykh. Ihsan Thahir (1407H) said:

“A cultist invites to his cult and party and orders people to follow men whom Allah hasn’t authorized to be followed “

Some of the more extreme followers of Salafi Publications believe that we will be asked about them and Shaykh Rabee in our graves.


Shaykh Rabee Al-Madkhali was asked if it’s permissible to make allegiance and disassociation based on specific people? He answered : This spreads the Ghulu(fanaticism)that Allah fights.He said:O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah[ Fatawa vol1/333]

The belief that it’s permissible to physically and emotionally abuse non-members

The fanatics of declaring Sunni Muslims as innovators will not go to the extreme of killing one who doesn’t agree with them, but will harm and have in past physically harmed another Muslim . Sheikh Rabee ibn Hadi Al-Madhkhali said: “They are known by their foul language, harshness, and intimidation of others, to the point they threaten Muslims by physical harm, in fact some of them have actually assaulted other Muslims.”[16]

On September 2nd,2016, a message was sent out from a branch of Salafi Publications at Masjid Bin Baz(East London) by Abu Umar Farooq, warning people from speaking about Abu Khadeejah and Bilal Davis(May Allah bless them)  and threatening to hunt down anyone who does. He said: Don’t speak about them, and Don’t refute them, and Don’t warn against these individuals, Don’t! And those that know of them give them my message. Don’t speak about them. Don’t speak about the noble brothers. And I’m going to say this every lesson cause I fear that some of them may be in our ranks…We’ll hunt them down! That’s how it is we’ll hunt you down!”[17]

Allah said: It is only Shaitan that suggests to you the fear of his Auliya’ [supporters and friends (polytheists, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah and in His Messenger, Muhammad], so fear them not, but fear Me, if you are (true) believers.[Al-Imran-175]  It’s Allah the most High Alone who strikes fear in the  Hearts of people so, no one is allowed in Islam assume the role of God to use fear against Muslims and humanity. Allah said: We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with Allah, for which He had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire and how evil is the abode of the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers). [ Al-Imran 151]

Previously, similar terroristic threats were issued on the Minbar from two Salafi Masjids under the umbrella of Salafi publications in North America, and through their teachers in Madinah during a phone conversation.[18]

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “It is not permissible to spill the blood of a Muslim except in three [instances]: the married person who commits adultery, a life for a life, and the one who forsakes his religion and separates from the community.” 

Unless they consider speech about Salafi publications an act of apostasy or separation from the community then why issue a direct terroristic threat to Muslims by forbidding things Allah and His Messenger (ﷺ) have made Halal? These kinds of transgressions go unchecked within the circles of the extremists.

A warning for any zealous youth who might think about carrying out his threat against his brother,  The Prophet,[ ], “Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and  fighting him is Kufr (disbelief),[19]. Moreover, The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, “Verily your blood, your property and your honor are as sacred and inviolable as the sanctity of this day of yours, in this month of yours and in this town of yours. Verily! I have conveyed this message to you.”[20]

It’s worth mentioning here that the call of Muhammad ibn Abdil Wahhab doesn’t promote terrorism or sanction attacks against anyone who doesn’t agree with them. The Muslim mustn’t fight for the sake of one agreeing or disagreeing with his group.[21]

Marriage with non-members

Another similar belief ISIS, ISIL and the extremists in Tadbee share is they believe that a marriage to a person who doesn’t agree with them isn’t allowed. This practice of the Khawarij was inherited from the Al-Azariq sect of renegades.[22] Similarly, if a woman complains to some of the fanatics of Tabdee about her husband  disagreeing with them, attending classes or listening to audios of people they consider astray and off track, then they will promptly assist her with a Khula process as witnessed in the past in Birmingham and presently today among a group known as The Western Salafis of Riyadh and in other parts of the world.

Unfortunately, no consideration is given to the welfare of the children; where and with which parent they will stay after the divorce. Rarely is the issue of reconciliation encouraged between spouses and at times once the marriage is dissolved does the father stay in touch with his children .Moreover, the fact that some of them are in foreign lands which require a woman’s legitimate stay under the sponsorship of her husband isn’t studied thoroughly.  Nonetheless, our Muslim sisters caught up in this cult’s web of deceit are being taken advantage of; some are even remarried for short periods to someone within the crew, and then left stranded with her children. Don’t you find it quite convenient that some of the brothers you go to for counseling end up with your ex after your divorce?

There is a consensus among the people of the Sunnah that sins and disobedience don’t take a Muslim out of the fold of Islam therefore their marriage remains legal under Islamic law unless it’s proven that one of the spouses has truly gone apostate. My advice to all Muslim brothers and sisters is to counsel true Islamic Scholars for their issues of marriage and  go to  the Islamic courts if you are in Muslim countries and  sideline all people who have a chronic history of serial marriages as a counselor for your situation ;and whoever and wherever you decide to remarry, be sure to have a blood test done for your own safety.

The belief that innovation and innovators are all the same

These radical groups of today are unaware of the complexities in Islam regarding various issues. They don’t have a deep understanding of the different kinds of Kufr & Bid’ah and other complex scenarios and their solutions. Limited knowledge is quite dangerous, and it has proved so in today’s world.To the extremists of Takfir, Kufr is one and there is no such thing of major and minor. When they see an act mentioned in the general sense that whoever does this is a disbeliever, they then run with it and make Takfir. For instance,”

Allah said: And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the Kafirun .[Al-Ma’idah :44]

The Kufr in this ayah is one that doesn’t take a person out of Islam as explained by Ibn Abbass.

Likewise, the rebels of Tabdee are unable to grasp that all bid’ah aren’t the same. There are some which are the major ones which take a person out of Islam and others which are minor that don’t. There’s a difference in the way a caller to Bid’ah is dealt with compared to someone whose Bid’ah is only with himself.

The people extreme in Tabdee don’t believe it’s allowed for them ask Allah  to  show mercy on a person of innovation. Shaykh Rabee said: It’s permissible to ask Allah to show mercy to the people of innovation and this is the way of the Salaf.

Therefore they rarely , if ever, make Dua for the Muslims’ not with them to be  blessed and forgiven.

The belief that it’s permissible to spy on Muslims

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is the worst of false tales; and do not look for the others’ faults and do not spy, and do not be jealous of one another, and do not desert (cut your relation with) one another, and do not hate one another; and O Allah’s worshipers! Be brothers (as Allah has ordered you!” [23]

ISIS/Al-Qa’idah generally join social media to keep tabs on the latest visits of Muslim leaders (May Allah strengthen them) around with the World. As soon as they can find a picture of a Muslim ruler with a non-Muslim they spread it confidentially among themselves using slander, defamation and Takfir.

This is the problem with social media accounts today like Facebook, Youtube and Twitter, all outlets where people have the freedom of speech to say whatever without thought or precaution. The best advice about Social media and in particular Twitter was given by the Mufti of Saudi Arabia and translated by our Brother Moosa Richardson of [24]

The Mufti said about Twitter: Those with no experience or knowledge go on and write whatever they want, follow whomever they want, criticize whomever they want, support whomever they want, and condemn whomever they want, without contemplating or following any Islamic guidelines.  Instead, they (Twitter accounts) are websites where people of no specialization or knowledge speak.”

The Mufti added: It is a medium of negativity for whirling whimsical insults and baseless personal attacks. These are serious affairs that Muslims are not allowed to be involved in!

Allahu Akbar, and who says the scholars are unaware of what’s going! Let’s look at an example of what the Mufti of Saudi Arabia is saying so that the picture is clear and the relationship is understood of how both extreme groups act alike and operate to spread their hatred for Muslims who aren’t in their group or disagree with them.

A questioner asked me for clarity about the hadith of 73 sects and its authenticity. I tweeted back at him on August 31st,2016 “It’s authentic and one of Salafi Imams wrote and entire book explaining the Hadith. this book by Shaykh Abdul Qahir details the Hadith and goes into the sects and what does الأمة mean.”

There it is right there. The opportunity for the student of nearly two decades in Saudi at the feet of well-known scholars to attack on my honor, slander me and earn some laughs and retweets. Allah said: If a good befalls you, it grieves them, but if some evil overtakes you, they rejoice at it.[25]

The comical yet sinister thing about this all is, I was blocked from him on Twitter after presenting a knowledge-based theory argument for his feedback, something we both have an email history of over the years, Nevertheless, times have changed and the lines have been drawn in the sands. Let’s pause here for a second, and ask ourselves by the way what kind of person blocks someone on Twitter, but then still follows his conversations with others?! Now let’s, proceed by looking at his clandestinely written Tweet hidden from my view.

On September 1st,2016 from Moosa Richardson @1MMeducation. “Well-known Ash’aree Abdul-Qaahir al-Baghdadi (d.429) is a “Salafi imam” (!!) to ignorant degree-purchasing frauds.” And “The book he introduces as the work of a “Salafi imam” (!!) promotes the deviant Ash’aree Cult as the correct creed of Ahlus-Sunnah! جهل مركب[ Compound ignorance]”[26]

He went totally against the advice he himself translated and displayed on

Allah said: Enjoin you Al-Birr (piety and righteousness and each and every act of obedience to Allah) on the people and you forget (to practise it) yourselves, while you recite the Scripture]! Have you then no sense? [Al-Baqarah:44]

The Mufti said: Helpful criticism and good advice has its place and channels, and it has its manners.  It is not to be spread about on this medium (Twitter) so that people join the bandwagon with lies, fabrications, fraudulence, and personal attacks, casting doubt on many (good) things, calling to confusion, chaos, and every harmful thing.

Imam Al-Barbaharee said: Whoever hides sincere advice from the Muslims has acted deceitfully towards them so it is not permissible to hide sincere advice from any of the Muslims, whether pious or impious, in matters of the religion. Whoever hides that has acted deceitfully towards the Muslims. Whoever acts deceitfully towards the Muslims has done so towards the religion. Whoever acts deceitfully towards the religion has behaved treacherously towards Allah, His Messenger and the Believers. [27]

Being that he has my email, he could have written to me and discussed the issue like he previously has done in past. Was I wrong for following the praises of Imam As-Saboonee and Imam Ath-Thahabi in Siyr about Abdul Qahir Al-Baghdadee [429H] ?

 If I am inviting others to read an Asha’ri leader’s book that promotes deviancy then what did Sheikh Zayd Madkhali (Rahimahullah) do by encouraging people to read the book, and the Lajnah of KSA for senior scholars  by referencing the book ? [28]

The claimdegree-purchasing frauds”. I’ll see him in front of Allah with this and for that I say “JazakAllahu khayran.”

Allah said: (Remember!) that the two receivers (recording angels) receive (each human being after he or she has attained the age of puberty), one sitting on the right and one on the left (to note his or her actions)… Not a word does he (or she) utter, but there is a watcher by him ready (to record it).


The belief that advice is withheld from Muslims they target .

Shaykh Rabee was asked about warning about a person before giving him advice. The Shaykh said: If his evil is imminent, hasten to advise him, this serves the situation better. If he accepts it then good, otherwise warn against him. On the other hand if his Bid’ah is insignificant then don’t make it difficult for him by refuting him publicly.[29]

In a nutshell, extreme groups take a position about a person first, then hold that belief and next label him  as unclear. The minute that individual makes a mistake they refute that error publicly. Allah said: but if a calamity overtakes you, they say: “We took our precaution beforehand,” and they turn away rejoicing.[30]

Extreme groups don’t believe in giving advice to their fellow Muslim. They derive pleasure from picking on others and name-calling to keep their followers eating others’ flesh with one-sided propaganda – a more preferred way to travel to their grave; instead of guiding and giving helpful advice to their Muslim brothers.

The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “Religion is sincerity, religion is sincerity (Al-Nasihah), and religion is sincerity.” The followers inquired: “To whom, O Messenger of Allah?” He (ﷺ) replied: “To Allah, to His Book, to His Messenger, to the imams of the Muslims and to their common folk.”  Only well-intentioned people are sincere enough to provide useful and true advice. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “None of you become a true believer until he likes for his brother what he likes for himself”

Shaykh Rabee Al-Madkhali said: If your brother falls into an error advise him politely with proof and evidence and Allah will allow him to benefit by using this method. Don’t sit and wait until he makes a mistake then spread all over the place, saying So and So did this and that. This approach is the way of the Devil and not the Salaf.[ Bahjatul Qari/page 107]

They name themselves  the Saved SECT

The Khawarij have a history of naming themselves in a way of a Tazkiyah. They call themselves Ahlul Iman (the people of faith) and everyone who opposes them they call them Kuffar(Disbelievers) Ibn Taymiyyah said: The people of innovation name themselves with titles they don’t deserve, similarly to the way the Khawarij call themselves, “The believers”[31]

The extremists of Tabdee believe they alone are the saved sect and no one else, if you were to ask them or their leaders to name one person who’s Salafi in the West that’s not with them they probably would avoid answering you or  reply with the block button on Twitter.

Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said: “The first people to go astray in this area were the Khawarij who considered themselves to be the only ones adhering to the Quran and the Sunnah properly. [32]

The fanatics of removing Muslims from Sunnah have taken the title of Salafiyah and changed it from its original and intended meaning used by the Salaf and scholars to a name brand label advertising their presence. For example they exploit the word “salafi “only calling themselves , [The Salafis ].This high-minded attitude of theirs has exposed their faith by the way they use the word for practically any and everything they touch, [ Salafi products], [Salafi Eids]  and so much more and Allah’s refuge is sought.

I ask you, what makes a product Salafi and what is a Salafi Eid again?[33]


  The practice of declaring those closest of kin deviants

This age old practice among those in extreme is inherited from the Khawarij. They declare their their closest relatives apostates,including their mothers and fathers. At-Tabari mentioned that Al-Azraq was a Sunni and when he died his son Naf’I didn’t attend his funeral.

The rebels of Tabdee won’t attend  the funeral any person they consider an innovator, regardless if he is a layman or ignorant; as their methodology is built on declaring Muslims innovators.

Ibn Taymiyyah said: “ It’s allowed to ask Allah’s Forgiveness for every Muslim that isn’t known to be a hypocrite and pray at his funeral, even if he’s known to be an innovator or sinner. However it’s not an obligation for every Muslim to attend the funeral.”[34]

From the many correspondences I’ve had with brothers worldwide, I encountered a British brother  who grieves severely from not attending the his mother’s funeral on account that he labeled her an innovator.

They fight and dispute over issues that scholars differ with.

The Khawarij are known to fight and dispute those who disagree with them in issues that scholars of the past differed over and are unwilling to make an excuse for the person who doesn’t side with their view.

Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said: This is the reality of the people of innovation and oppression like the Khawariji and other groups. They oppress the Ummah and transgress against those who don’t agree with them in issues.[35]

The fanatics of Tabdee in most cases are Hanbalis in their Fiqh so if someone comes with an issue that goes against what their scholars say about the topic they get angry, or if person quotes one scholar they will quote theirs and continue to quote them;as if they are  the proof and alone know the truth.

The reason why they quote their scholars with such passion is because they are attached to their personalities more than the Prophet. Consequently you’ll notice they quote their scholars position on an issue and then they  tag it with the phrase , “ We are on the Minhaj of shaykh so and so

Imam Al-Ghazali, “The nature of weak minded people is to recognize the truth by the person who said it and not the  truth as it is.”

The belief  that Senior Salafi Scholars who don’t agree with them have issues.

It’s almost impossible to hear a praise or recommendation for a Salafy scholar who doesn’t agree them. They mainly target the senior scholars in this area. They says things like , “ I’m not a fan of Fawzan  “ Shaykh Al-Albani and Al-Uthaymeen didn’t really understand Minhaj “ or their  most recent one , “We are waiting for Shaykh Abdul Muhsin to die so that we can warn against his son,”

Additionally, we need to add to the list the  statement from Abu Khadeejah: “ Sh Rabi, Sh Ubayd,Sh Muhammad Hadi,Sh Abdullah Bukhari: These are the scholars of Madinah most acquainted with Dawa in the UK/USA.[36]

Honestly brothers and sisters, are you that naïve ? When was the last time any  one of the four scholars he mentioned present in your cities or country?

What makes them some much more aware of the realities in the West than the list of scholars who have physically seen and visited the UK/USA in last 2 years?  Whose informing them about the Dawah in the West ? Are they reliable people?

Ibn Taymiyyah said : The origin of the Khawarij’s misguidance is their belief that the scholars of guidance and Sunnah along with the general  Muslim communities have deviated and are now astray.”[37]

Usamah bin Laden used to consider  all  Salafi scholars  corrupted who didn’t agree with him  and advised people to avoid them.[38]

Abu Mus’ab As-Syrian said: The evil of Bin Baz and Al-Uthaymeen is more harmful to this Ummah than the harms of Ibn Abi Dawud in his era.[39]

The belief that non-affiliate masjids are all places of innovation along with their people.

Jama’tul Takfir wal Hijrah was a Khawarij group started by Ali Isma’il and his brother Abdul Fattah in the prisons of Egypt in 1965. Their belief system was built on their name,” The Group of declaring Muslims apostate and migration.” Their core beliefs were Muslims become infidels by sinning, and especially if they regularly sinned without repentance. Their  view was that if a Muslim ruler is a disbeliever then the same applies for his citizens he governs and they only prayed in the Masajid where their Imams lead prayer; as they considered all other masjids as Darar.[40] In a like manner, the extremists in Tabdee will only pray in what their leaders call a Salafi Masjid, deem everyone who falls into what they perceive as innovation as an innovator, and if a teacher errs then they view that all of  his students have shared in the ruling as well. With such similarities shared between these two, we can call the second group ( جماعة التبديع و الهجر والعزل)

Sheikh Rabee said if the scholars have proof that a scholar is astray then the verdict for his students can only be applied to those who are affected and in contact with him.[41]

In regards to boycotting people, then the decision is to be made by the scholars, not the Du’at or the layman.

Shaykh Rabee said: The Salaf used to boycott innovators, but this decision must be made by the scholars to determine if it’s suitable or not. So if it’s better to avoid boycotting him and call his attention to what is correct, and you and him can see eye to eye then don’t end your relationship with him.[42]

Since the Khawarij’s methodology is built on Takfir on sinful Muslims and removing Muslims from Islam through actions that don’t necessitate that ruling, they believe that everyone whose not with them is a Kafir. Hence the people not in their ranks blood,wealth and honor are all lawful for the taking. Based on this ideology they don’t consider the prayer behind a person who opposes them to be acceptable.

Al-Harith ibn Rashid An-Najee revolted against Ali ibn Talib and said : “ I swear to God Ali, I wont obey you and I wont pray behind you!  Ali replied : You are fool then, if you want to disobey your Lord and break your oath,you are only harming yourself.” [43]

The extremist in Tabdee often quote and misunderstand the narrations: “ We don’t pray behind innovators “, and in their dogma every Muslim not in their club is an innovator, and the fastest way to expose this belief of theirs is to ask them when they say So and So is an innovator,  What’s his innovation ? What have the Ulema said about him ?

So by default they abandon prayer behind their estimation of Ahlul Bid’ah. Abullah ibn Ahmed asked his father Imam Ahmed about praying behind the people of Bid’ah and he answered : Don’t pray behind  those with the belief of Jahmiyah and Mu’tazeelah .

Also Imam Ahmed didn’t allow the  prayer behind the Rafidha cult.

Muslims regardless of race and gender remain under their “ Guilty until proven Innocent” radar until certain allegiances are taken. They misuse Imam Al-Barbaharee’s quote : “ Today we test people with the Sunnah “

Shaykh Ahmed An-Najmi said :Testing people in order to affirm if they are from Ahlus Sunnah or not ? What’s apparent is the general people are following the generalities of Islam and NO ONE should be tested until it shows that his beliefs aren’t from the doctrine of Ahlus Sunnah. Then in that case if it appears that he has beliefs of Irja, Al-Jahmiyyah, As-Sufiyyah and Ar-Rafidha, then he’s tested with the questions those groups are tested with.

For example : If he’s a Murji’a ask him does  Iman increase and decrease or if he’s a Rafidha ask him if the Ahl Bayt are infallible or not and etc.[44]

They harm and attack Muslims and leave alone pagans.

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: They will kill the Muslims but will not disturb the idolaters.

This is among the most witnessed distinct trait of the Khawariji. In the same token the  extremists of Tabdee remain silent against modern movements of innovations such as  the Muslim LGBT, Muslim feminist cults and so forth, yet praise leaders  like Barack  Obama and  David Cameron ; both pushing those agendas.  Praising the Kuffar gives  them the sense of satisfaction that their deeds are acceptable and praiseworthy. Allah said: Think not that those who rejoice in what they have done (or brought about), and love to be praised for what they have not done,- think not you that they are rescued from the torment, and for them is a painful torment.[Al-Imran:188]


To repeat, their interactions with non-Muslims compared to how they treat Muslims is  more widely recognized from their tongues. Their compliments for disbelievers and verbal attacks for Muslims are more frequent in their Dua.

They say things against Muslims like; May Allah burn his face, May Allah allow him die with no one to wash his body, Oh Allah unite him with the Dajjal, May Allah not allow you to die before you tried and troubled with prostitutes, and their favorite one is, “May Allah break your back

Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah said: A person’s tongue can give you a taste of what’s in his heart.”


The Belif that sins doesn’t harm Salafiyyah

The Khawarji have the belief that faith is one and doesn’t consist of branches,while some fanatics of Tabdee believe the association to Salafiyyah  is the most important thing in this religion no matter what. This is Irja.

The Prophet (ﷺ) said”  And whoever is slowed down by his actions, will not be hastened forward by his lineage.

They have a few narrations they rely on to keep their egos high in the faces of their true reality.

Sufyaan ath-Thawree (d. 161H) said: Innovation is more beloved to Iblees than sin, since a sin may be repented from but innovation is not repented from.

Imaam Ahmad said, The graves of Ahl us-Sunnah from those who committed the major sins are like gardens. And the graves of Ahl ul-Bid?ah from amongst their abstemious pious ones are hollow and empty. The sinners of Ahl us-Sunnah are the Awliyaa? (Friends) of Allaah and the abstemious pious ones of Ahl ul-Bid?ah are the Enemies of Allaah.

This narration from Imam Ahmed requires more study and shouldn’t be left general to the public as is. For instance Imam Ahmed is talking about a  matter of the unseen that requires revelation. The condition for everyone after  their death is unknown to us ,except those whom Allah and His Messenger have mentioned.

Allah’s Apostle (ﷺ) said: The dead is punished in the grave because of wailing on it.[45]

Once the Prophet (ﷺ) went through the grave-yards of Medina and heard the voices of two humans who were being tortured in their graves. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “They are being punished, but they are not being punished because of a major sin, yet their sins are great. One of them used not to save himself from (being soiled with) the urine, and the other used to go about with calumnies (Namima).” Then the Prophet asked for a green palm tree leaf and split it into two pieces and placed one piece on each grave, saying, “I hope that their punishment may be abated as long as these pieces of the leaf are not dried.”[46]

Moreover, was Imam Ahmed  referring to the people of bid’ah in this narration whose Bid’ah takes them out of Islam or what?

When we abandon the primary sources for reference in Islam. i.e Quran, Sunnah and Ijma and rely on secondary sources as our evidences all kinds of confusion and misinterpretations  can occur .

Sins can and do affect  a person’s Aqeedah , actions and can lead to kufr.

The Prophet(ﷺ)said: Bad character ruins deeds the same way vinegar spoils honey.[47]

Shiekh Al-Uthaymeen said : “When a person’s manners become bad so does his Aqeedah.”


The most alarming danger posed by people extreme in Takfir and Tabdee is their intolerance. Extremists in Takfir and Tabdee hurt innocent people while believing they are doing righteous deeds with their sense of absolutism. If anyone presents information that’s doesn’t fit their thought process, it is dismissed no matter how rationally valid it is. These extremists have a sense of knowing the ultimate meaning.  They are the most stubborn people you’ll even meet with no objectivity. They dehumanize everyone who doesn’t agree with them, thus they feel the power harm and abuse outsiders.

There is no better way anyone can defend the whole world from the  cruel acts of  ideological terrorism who have harmed  thousands of innocent people, than spreading the real and the true teachings of Islam and the Shariah. It is  time that we deter this dangerous threat to our world by working together on the wavered minds & ideologies of such people and teach  the true message of Islam and Sunnah. As time passes by , this group  like every other movement  will implode as you are witnessing now, so remain firm and patient and constantly repent to Allah and carry on. As the people they once liaised with in the city of the Prophet are being silenced by the Government through promises of silence , while others  are being giving exits permits just  look around and you’ll notice the echos from the keyboards have almost stopped. And All praises to Allah

Written and prepared by

Abu Aaliyah Abdullah ibn Dwight Battle

The Preachers for Salafi Publications/ Troidca




Abu Khadeejah blankets the scholars and Masjids in the UK as Ahl Bid’ah

 [1] Quran:Khaf:103

[2] Sahih al-Bukhari 5057

[3] [Al-Isra:15]

[4] Sharh Usul wa Dawabit fee Takfir, by Shaykh Abdul Latif Al-Ash-Shaykh, explained by Shaykh Muhammad Bazmoul.

[5] Majmou 12/501

[6] Majmou/s Rasa’il 1/44/

[7] Minhaj Al-Hadadiyyah.

[8] Irshadus Saree/pg 203/

[9] Quran :16:43

[10] Youtube channels are loaded with this practice.


[12] Taqreer Aa-Imahtu Dawah, Shaykh Muhammad Tahir, page 111

[13] Quran : 6:19

[14] Darur As-Siniyah.


[16] Minhaj Al-Hadadiyyah, by Al-Alamah, Ash-Shaykh Rabee,point #9

[17]  Pay close attention to their words

Abu Umar Faarooq Masjid bin Baz(East London)

[18] Umar Quinn of Masjid Rahmah(Newark NJ): 

Abu Hasan Malik (Masjid Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahaab – Camden, New Jersey)

from 17:00 until then end: 

complete audio here

Abdul Wali Nelson(Masjid Ad Da’wah Ilat Tawheed Baltimore Md)


[19] [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

[20] [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

[21]  Taqreer Al-Aimahtu Dawah, pg 571, Shaykh Muhammad Tahir

[22] IBID

[23] Sahih al-Bukhari 6064


[25] Quran :3:120

[26] @1mmeducation on September 1st ,2016 img_0486notice how my name is reddened out !

[27] Sharhus Sunnah by Imam Al-Barbaharee

[28] Ajwabatus Sadeedah vol3/429

[29] Fatawa vol1/278

[30] Taubah 50

[31] [ Bayyan Talbees/20/135]

[32] [Al-Istaqamah 1/13]

[33] Abu Hasan Malik Al-Akhdar titled his EID SALAFI, perhaps the first in history to do so

[34] Minhaj As-Sunnah/5/235

[35] Majmou 17/311

[36]fullsizerender-2 Quotes like this is why they have been accused of restricting Salafiyyah to only 4. Look at the names often quoted. 

[37] Majmou 28/497

[38] Ibn Laden the leader of this era, by Al-Faris Az-Zahrani, pg 401

[39] Death to the Scholars/ by Abu Mus’ab pg 17

[40] Al-Mowsoo’ah Al-Maysar vol1/ 333-338

[41] Fatawa Shaykh Rabee / vol 1/ 343

[42] Fatawa Shaykh Rabee / vol 1/ 278

[43] Bidiyah wan nihiya/7/339 – r

[44] Sharhu Sunnah/ pg 227-228

[45] Sahih Muslim 927

[46] Sahih al-Bukhari 6055

[47] At-Tabarani (12/543) Hasan by Al-Albani

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