The Difference between Fate and Destiny; and which One do we Control?

The Difference between Fate and Destiny; and which One do we Control?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

The topic of the Qadr has long been one which when people dive deep into go astray. Hence the only way for the servant of Allah to be successful regarding it is to simply have faith in it; as it is from the secrets of Allah, by which He tests people. In this discussion I’d like to address some of the principles which have caused some people to become atheists, or even stop doing actions with the belief that their place in the Hereafter has already been decided, so why bother. Moreover, another group of people go to another extreme saying the Qadr justifies their evil actions. All of these doubts will be refuted in detail by the time you get to the end of this page.

The Qadr of Allah or in this case we will use the word fate ,fate as used by the English speakers is that which has been predetermined and doesn’t change. In other words this is what has been written in the Preserved Tablet with Allah;  “ Al-Lahwul Mahfuth”  As Muslims we believe that everything written in the Preserved Tablet which includes,  one’s happiness, sadness, one’s life and death, and one’s provisions and life span doesn’t and will not change. However, that which is written and recorded with Angels will and can change based on the servants’ actions. Therefore, we can refer to this as the destiny. One’s destiny which includes, happiness, sadness, life, death, provisions and life expectancy can be rewritten.

What Allah wrote in the Preserved Tablet wont change as that is connected to His Knowledge, and what He knows cannot be changed; as everything has been written until the Last Day.  If what Allah wrote with Himself could change then this would mean His awareness of things changes; hence that would imply a deficiency in Allah’s Ilm.

Abu Hazm said: “ Allah knew everything before it was written and before creation came about. The creation of Allah has been preceded by Allah’s knowledge and His pen.[1]

Abu Huraira:(radi Allahu anhu) narrated :

I said, “O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)! I am a young man and I am afraid that I may commit illegal sexual intercourse and I cannot afford to marry.” He kept silent, and then repeated my question once again, but he kept silent. I said the same (for the third time) and he remained silent. Then repeated my question (for the fourth time), and only then the Prophet said, “O Abu Huraira! The pen has dried after writing what you are going to confront. So (it does not matter whether you) get yourself castrated or not.”[2]

All of these matters are related to the fate. Now the matters of the destiny are recorded with Allah Angels and are divided in 2 categories;

1-Prior . this is what agrees with what Allah has written in the Al-Lahwul Mahfuth and is also referred to as the inescapable fate. (القضاء المبرم )

2- Later- This is written by the Angels after the person does an action. These actions aren’t final and can be altered. They are referred to as the connected destiny. (القضاء المعلق )

For example, it’s said to the Angel. Umar’s will live for 100 years provided that he maintains family ties otherwise he will die at the age of 60. Both of these things are written with the angels. However only one will occur. Whether or not if Umar will maintain the ties of kinship or not is already known to Allah, but not to the Angels.

Consequently, there are 4 major differences between fate and destiny.

  1. Fate has been recorded with the pen and destiny is recorded by the angels.
  2. Fate has been determined before creation and destiny happens later on.
  3. Fate is based on Allah’s knowledge which doesn’t change and destiny is based on the knowledge of the angels which can change.
  4. Fate has to happen as written or not , but this is based on a condition that has already been prerecorded.

There is an issue about the tablet the angels record our deeds in. Some say only certain things can be erased while others differ and say everything can be erased, and this is the most correct view. This is based on the verse. He says:

“Allah eliminates and confirms what He wills, and with Him is the Master Record.” [3]

Salman al-Farisi reported God’s messenger as saying, “Nothing but supplication averts the decree, and nothing but righteousness increases life.” [4]

The word “ Decree “ in this hadith is general, thus implies everything.

Assim ibn Abi An-Najood said: “Our companions used to say Allah removes things as He wills through supplication.”[5]

Another evidence of the possibility of change is the Dua the Salaf used to make and hence we should follow their footsteps by learning it and saying it also.

اللَّهُمَّ إنْ كُنْتَ كَتَبْتَنا أَشْقِيَاءَ فامْحُنا وَاكْتُبْنا سُعَدَاءَ ، وَإِنْ كُنْتَ كَتَبْتَنا سُعَدَاءَ فَأَثْبَتْنَا ، فَإِنَّك تَمْحُو مَا تَشَاءُ وَتَثْبُت وَعِنْدَك أُمُّ الْكِتَابِ .

Oh Allah if You have written us among those miserable then erase it and write us about the happy and if You have recorded us among the happy then leave it as it is. Without a doubt You erase what You will and leave written what you will as You have the Preserved Tablet.[6]

 Taken from ( قواعد أهل الأثر في الإيمان بالقدر ) by Shaykh Dr. Ahmed An-Najjar pg 68-81.

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[1] Ibn Battah , Al-Ibannah 2/229

[2] Al-Bukhari 5076

[3] Quran 13:39

[4] At-Tirmithi 2139, graded as being Hasan by Imam At-Tirmithi

[5] Ibn Battah , Al-Ibannah (2/35)

[6] Tafsir At-Tabari vol 16/pg 481




The Argument between Adam and Moosa

The Argument between Adam and Moosa

A refutation on those who use the Qadr to Sin

By Shaykh  Mar’ee ibn Yusef Al-Hanbali[1][1033H]

 

 احْتَجَّ آدَمُ وَمُوسَى فَقَالَ لَهُ مُوسَى يَا آدَمُ أَنْتَ أَبُونَا خَيَّبْتَنَا وَأَخْرَجْتَنَا مِنَ الْجَنَّةِ بِذَنْبِكَ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ لَهُ آدَمُ يَا مُوسَى اصْطَفَاكَ اللَّهُ بِكَلاَمِهِ وَخَطَّ لَكَ التَّوْرَاةَ بِيَدِهِ أَتَلُومُنِي عَلَى أَمْرٍ قَدَّرَهُ اللَّهُ عَلَىَّ قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَنِي بِأَرْبَعِينَ سَنَةً فَحَجَّ آدَمُ مُوسَى فَحَجَّ آدَمُ مُوسَى فَحَجَّ آدَمُ مُوسَى

The Prophet[2]

 

Benefits for this Hadith :

Some people use this hadith as a license to sin.  Imam Al-Mar’ee ibn Yusef Al-Hanbali said: This hadith is authentic but it doesn’t mean what some people misconstrue it be. That is it’s permissible to sin as it’s all been decreed by Allah.

  • Ibn Taymiyyah said: Some groups believe from this hadith that Adam used the Qadr as a reason for his sin and that he debated Musa with that as his proof.

 

  • Imam Al-Mara’ee said the apparent meaning of this hadith is Adam debated Musa arguing that he repented of the sin, and submitted to the fact of the consequences of his action for his offspring.

  • Included in this hadith is the act a person surrenders to the Qadr when a calamity befalls him.

 

  • A repentant sinner can’t be blamed for what he did.

 

  • The believer is ordered to return to the Qadr at a calamity and not to the sin or act of disobedience, so he remains patient during calamity and repents to Allah.

 

  • As for sins then no one has the right to use the Qadr as means to justify the act of disobedience, rather he must avoid the sin, and if he sins ,then he must repent the same way Adam did.

 

  • The Salaf said: Two people sinned Adam and Satan. Adam repented and Allah accepted it and Ibliss remained on his sin and used the Qadr as his excuse; thus he was cursed and expelled from Jannah. Hence whoever repents from sinning resembles Adam and whoever continues to sin using the Qadr is similar to Satan.

 

  • If the Qadr was an excuse to sin then Ibliss, Fir’aun, and all disbelievers would have a valid excuse.

 

  • Musa is well aware of Allah to blame Adam for a sin he repented from. The one who repents is like the one who never sinned. So how could Musa blame his father for a sin he repent for and consequently Allah forgave him.

 

  • Using the Qadr as an excuse to sin is rejected by every religion and person of intellect. For instance, if a person oppressed another could fate be accepted as an excuse?

 

  • If a person stole something for you would you accept his excuse it was decreed?

 

  • If a person owed you some money would you accept his excuse I’ll pay you when Allah decrees I have money?

 

  • If the Qadr was an excuse to sin and commit oppression then no one could blame anyone or be punished for their crimes. A person would have the right to take the life,the  property, and the wealth of another and use the Qadr as an excuse.

 

  • The people in Hell will try to use the Qadr as an excuse for their disobedience. Allah said: Those who took partners (in worship) with Allah will say: “If Allah had willed, we would not have taken partners (in worship) with Him, nor would our fathers, and we would not have forbidden anything (against His Will).”[Al-An’am:148]

 

  • The pagans will use the Qadr as a reason for rejecting the Messengers, practicing shirk and abandoning Tawheed. However if one of them used the Qadr as an excuse to neglect his rights he wouldn’t accept it.

 

  • The origins of those who use the Qadr to sin come from the pagans and Arabs of pre-Islamic times.

 

  • Using the Qadr as an excuse to sin is among the greatest types of innovation.

 

  • Allah said: And those who join others in worship with Allah say: “If Allah had so willed, neither we nor our fathers would have worshipped aught but Him, nor would we have forbidden anything without (Command from) Him.[An-Nahl:35]. Allah explained this speech refers to those who denied the messengers and doesn’t mean the Qadr is a proof.

 

  • Only people of desires use the Qadr as a reason to sin.

 

  • Every being of intellect knows the Qadr can’t be used to avoid acts since man has free will. For instance, if a slave told his master I won’t do it until Allah creates this action. Could that be accepted from the slave?

 

  • If the Qadr was an excuse to sin, then nothing would happen except what Allah intended. This would mean Allah has placed a burden on the soul which it can’t bear and then be punished. This is oppression and Allah is free from oppression. [3]

 

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[1] He lived during the beginning of the Othman era. He was born in Palestine. Some of his teachers were, Sh Muhammed Al-Mardawee, and Qadi Yahya Al-Hijjawi. Shaykh Mar’ee excelle in Quranic sciences, Naskh wa Mansukh,He was Salafi in his aqeedah and a Hanabli expert. He graduated from Azhar. His most well-known book today is Dalil At-Talib.

[2] Collected by  Al-Bukhari [6414] and  Muslim [6912]

[3] رفع الشبهة الغرر عمن يحتج على فعل المعاصي بالقدر  , by Shaykh Mar’ee ibn Yusef Al-Hanbali